Note : All values are average values, and can be updated by further measurement.
| Quad/Triple Fiber | Outer | Inner | 3+2 ply | Center Fiber | 7-ply Wood | 5-ply Wood |
andro & Avalox / Inner
| Name | Avg.Wt (g) | Ep | Ec | Ec/Ep | Vp | Vl | Vl/Vp |
| andro Synteliac ZCI OFF | 84.9 | 1.92 | 1.98 | 1.04 | 1.36 | 1.37 | 1.01 |
| andro Synteliac VCI OFF | 88.6 | 1.80 | 1.78 | 0.99 | 1.26 | 1.28 | 1.02 |
| andro Treiber CI OFF | 84.0 | 1.59 | 1.73 | 1.09 | 1.28 | 1.21 | 0.95 |
Avalox / Inner
| Name | Avg.Wt (g) | Ep | Ec | Ec/Ep | Vp | Vl | Vl/Vp |
| Avalox Ruiba Bloodwood Carbon | 91.8 | 1.60 | 1.38 | 0.86 | 1.09 | 1.15 | 1.06 |
Butterfly / Inner Fiber (* The term ‘Inner Fiber’ can be used only for Butterfly blades)
| Name | Avg.Wt (g) | Ep | Ec | Ec/Ep | Vp | Vl | Vl/Vp |
| Butterfly Franziska InnerForce ZLC | 84.8 | 1.70 | 1.65 | 0.97 | 1.22 | 1.22 | 1.00 |
| Butterfly InnerForce Layer ZLC | 89.8 | 1.90 | 1.73 | 0.91 | 1.24 | 1.21 | 0.98 |
| Butterfly Harimoto T. InnerForce ALC | 91.6 | 1.90 | 1.69 | 0.89 | 1.22 | 1.21 | 0.99 |
| Butterfly InnerForce Layer ALC (Old – measured in 2018) | 88.1 | 1.62 | 1.45 | 0.90 | 1.15 | 1.23 | 1.07 |
| Butterfly InnerForce Layer ALC (New – measured in 2023) | 91.2 | 1.87 | 1.67 | 0.89 | 1.20 | 1.20 | 1.00 |
| Butterfly InnerForce Layer ALC.S | 88.0 | 1.48 | 1.33 | 0.90 | 1.10 | 1.13 | 1.03 |
| Butterfly InnerForce Layer AL | 84.5 | 1.26 | 1.19 | 0.95 | 1.07 | 1.07 | 1.00 |
| Butterfly InnerForce ULC | 87.7 | 1.61 | 1.87 | 1.16 | 1.30 | 1.00 | 0.77 |
| Butterfly InnerForce ZLF | 89.1 | 1.73 | 1.61 | 0.93 | 1.20 | 1.13 | 0.94 |
| Butterfly Ovtcharov InnerForce ALC | 88.0 | 2.02 | 1.68 | 0.83 | 1.21 | 1.30 | 1.07 |
DHS / Inner
| Name | Avg.Wt (g) | Ep | Ec | Ec/Ep | Vp | Vl | Vl/Vp |
| DHS Hurricane 301 | 89.6 | 1.88 | 1.64 | 0.87 | 1.20 | 1.29 | 1.08 |
| DHS Hurricane 301T | 90.7 | 2.05 | 1.87 | 0.91 | 1.28 | 1.23 | 0.96 |
| DHS Hurricane 301X | 89.9 | 1.98 | 1.86 | 0.94 | 1.28 | 1.27 | 0.99 |
| DHS Hurricane 301Z | 88.2 | 1.64 | 1.36 | 0.83 | 1.11 | 1.24 | 1.12 |
| DHS Hurricane Long 5 (2022) | 88.1 | 1.68 | 1.50 | 0.89 | 1.16 | 1.26 | 1.09 |
| DHS Hurricane Long 5 (2018) | 88.2 | 1.64 | 1.24 | 0.76 | 1.06 | 1.27 | 1.20 |
| DHS Hurricane Long 5X | 89.0 | 1.86 | 1.54 | 0.83 | 1.20 | 1.37 | 1.14 |
Donic / Inner
| Name | Avg.Wt (g) | Ep | Ec | Ec/Ep | Vp | Vl | Vl/Vp |
| Donic Anders Lind HexaCarbon | 86.5 | 2.04 | 1.88 | 0.92 | 1.31 | 1.38 | 1.05 |
| Donic Li Ping KiTex | 85.4 | 1.72 | 1.74 | 1.01 | 1.29 | 1.20 | 0.93 |
| Donic Original No.1 | 88.7 | 1.75 | 1.44 | 0.82 | 1.14 | 1.31 | 1.15 |
| Donic Waldner Senso Carbon | 84.1 | 1.34 | 1.25 | 0.93 | 1.11 | 1.21 | 1.09 |
| Donic Whiper Inner Carbon | 85.2 | 1.75 | 1.81 | 1.04 | 1.30 | 1.20 | 0.93 |
Joola / Inner
| Name | Avg.Wt (g) | Ep | Ec | Ec/Ep | Vp | Vl | Vl/Vp |
| Joola Rosskopf Allround | 91.0 | 1.80 | 1.38 | 0.77 | 1.09 | 1.22 | 1.12 |
| Joola Rosskopf Emotion | 79.2 | 1.44 | 1.39 | 0.96 | 1.19 | 1.19 | 1.00 |
| Joola TPE Fight | 85.0 | 2.19 | 2.42 | 1.11 | 1.51 | 1.38 | 0.91 |
KTS / Inner
| Name | Avg.Wt (g) | Ep | Ec | Ec/Ep | Vp | Vl | Vl/Vp |
| KTS Ngineered H | 85.2 | 1.67 | 1.64 | 0.98 | 1.24 | 1.21 | 0.98 |
| KTS Ngineered J | 83.3 | 1.56 | 2.13 | 1.37 | 1.42 | 1.15 | 0.81 |
| KTS Foundation GF.K Ebony Special | 86.2 | 1.13 | 0.97 | 0.85 | 0.94 | 1.06 | 1.12 |
| KTS Problade Core ALC (old/ made in Korea) | 89.9 | 1.69 | 1.54 | 0.91 | 1.16 | 1.21 | 1.04 |
| KTS Problade Core ALC (new/ made in Japan) | 85.1 | 1.80 | 1.80 | 1.00 | 1.30 | 1.28 | 0.99 |
| KTS Problade Forge 3K | 84.4 | 2.11 | 1.93 | 0.92 | 1.35 | 1.47 | 1.09 |
| KTS Problade Signia GF | 85.6 | 1.67 | 1.61 | 0.96 | 1.22 | 1.17 | 0.96 |
Nevagiva / Inner
| Name | Avg.Wt (g) | Ep | Ec | Ec/Ep | Vp | Vl | Vl/Vp |
| Nevagiva Affect | 83.2 | 1.35 | 1.23 | 0.92 | 1.08 | 1.20 | 1.11 |
Nittaku / Inner
| Name | Avg.Wt (g) | Ep | Ec | Ec/Ep | Vp | Vl | Vl/Vp |
| Nittaku Acoustic Carbon Inner | 82.9 | 1.36 | 1.22 | 0.90 | 1.08 | 1.21 | 1.12 |
| Nittaku Hina Hayata H2 | 89.7 | 1.78 | 1.51 | 0.85 | 1.16 | 1.24 | 1.07 |
Stiga / Inner
| Name | Avg.Wt (g) | Ep | Ec | Ec/Ep | Vp | Vl | Vl/Vp |
| Stiga Allround Classic Carbon | 88.8 | 1.27 | 1.19 | 0.94 | 1.05 | 1.11 | 1.06 |
| Stiga CC5 | 91.1 | 1.85 | 1.89 | 1.02 | 1.31 | 1.22 | 0.93 |
| Stiga CC7 | 91.8 | 2.04 | 1.70 | 0.83 | 1.24 | 1.43 | 1.15 |
| Stiga Centric Carbon | 84.9 | 1.32 | 1.12 | 0.85 | 1.02 | 1.19 | 1.17 |
| Stiga Cybershape Carbon | 84.5 | 2.14 | 1.86 | 0.87 | 1.33 | 1.48 | 1.11 |
| Stiga Inspira CCF | 87.3 | 2.17 | 1.90 | 0.88 | 1.33 | 1.47 | 1.11 |
| Stiga Offensive Classic Carbon | 86.3 | 1.40 | 1.14 | 0.81 | 1.05 | 1.26 | 1.20 |
Tibhar / Inner
| Name | Avg.Wt (g) | Ep | Ec | Ec/Ep | Vp | Vl | Vl/Vp |
| Tibhar Fortino Pro DC Inside | 83.4 | 1.54 | 1.54 | 1.00 | 1.25 | 1.29 | 1.03 |
| Tibhar Fortino Force | 85.2 | 1.88 | 1.72 | 0.91 | 1.28 | 1.38 | 1.08 |
| Tibhar Fortino Performance | 87.3 | 1.71 | 1.53 | 0.90 | 1.19 | 1.27 | 1.07 |
| Tibhar Shang Kun Hybrid ZC | 92.0 | 2.19 | 1.86 | 0.85 | 1.26 | 1.38 | 1.10 |
| Tibhar Shang Kun Hybrid AC | 88.8 | 1.87 | 1.63 | 0.87 | 1.20 | 1.36 | 1.13 |
| Tibhar Stratus Samsonov Carbon | 88.7 | 1.32 | 1.24 | 0.94 | 1.11 | 1.25 | 1.13 |
| Tibhar Zodiac Libra ZAC | 87.3 | 1.71 | 1.64 | 0.96 | 1.22 | 1.29 | 1.06 |
Victas / Inner
| Name | Avg.Wt (g) | Ep | Ec | Ec/Ep | Vp | Vl | Vl/Vp |
| Victas Fire Fall LC | 85.1 | 1.87 | 1.29 | 0.69 | 1.10 | 1.39 | 1.26 |
| Victas Fire Fall VC | 81.8 | 1.74 | 1.68 | 0.97 | 1.29 | 1.44 | 1.12 |
| Victas ZX-Gear In | 88.0 | 1.83 | 1.42 | 0.78 | 1.13 | 1.31 | 1.16 |
| Victas ZX-Gear Fiber | 83.7 | 1.31 | 1.17 | 0.89 | 1.06 | 1.19 | 1.13 |
Xiom / Inner
| Name | Avg.Wt (g) | Ep | Ec | Ec/Ep | Vp | Vl | Vl/Vp |
| Xiom 36.5 ALXi | 87.1 | 1.68 | 1.42 | 0.85 | 1.18 | 1.30 | 1.10 |
| Xiom An Jaehyun TMXi | 86.4 | 1.88 | 1.73 | 0.92 | 1.26 | 1.29 | 1.02 |
| Xiom Hayabusa ZL Pro | 86.2 | 1.67 | 1.46 | 0.88 | 1.16 | 1.16 | 1.00 |
Yasaka / Inner
| Name | Avg.Wt (g) | Ep | Ec | Ec/Ep | Vp | Vl | Vl/Vp |
| Yasaka Falck Carbon | 87.6 | 2.04 | 1.93 | 0.95 | 1.33 | 1.39 | 1.05 |
| Yasaka Ma Lin Carbon | 88.6 | 1.49 | 1.30 | 0.87 | 1.09 | 1.16 | 1.06 |
| Yasaka Ma Lin Softcarbon | 90.1 | 1.49 | 1.07 | 0.72 | 0.97 | 1.16 | 1.20 |
Yinhe / Inner
| Name | Avg.Wt (g) | Ep | Ec | Ec/Ep | Vp | Vl | Vl/Vp |
| Yinhe M201 | 87.6 | 1.76 | 1.46 | 0.83 | 1.16 | 1.33 | 1.15 |
| Yinhe M202 | 91.3 | 2.15 | 1.85 | 0.86 | 1.27 | 1.33 | 1.05 |
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The Ec and Ep for the Nittaku Acoustic Inner look very low – lower than standard Acoustic. Is that correct?
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Those values are correct. I think that one reason it its thin construction. (Just 5.4mm.)
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I forgot to mention. One important reason why the elasticity of Acoustic Carbon Inner is its center layer.
In general, the center layer of inner fiber blade is harder than the center layer of outer fiber blades. If the same wood as the center layer of outer fiber blade is used for the center layer of inner fiber blade, the elasticity level becomes very low. In that case it makers increases the thickness of blade to compensate for the loss of elasticity. However, Acoustic Carbon Inner is same or even thinner than Acoustic Carbon (outer).
Another example of inner fiber blade whose center layer is that for outer fiber blade is Tibhar Stratus Samsonov Carbon. That is the reason why Stratus Samsonov Carbon is not much elastic.
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Hi 🙂
i want to ask you about similar blade like nittaku acoustic inner carbon, in fact the blade is nittaku kasumi eternity (it is limited edition)!
they say that this blade have identical structure like acoustic inner but its thicness is 6mm..
i wonder if it will be alot more elastic?!
and how it will feel, what you think?.
thank you in advance.
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Then Kasumi Eternity is different blade from Acoustic Carbon Inner.
The thickness of Acoustic Carbon Inner is just 5.4mm. And, that makes Acoustic Carbon Inner slower than expected. (But, thanks to carbon fiber, you’ll not feel it slow when you smash with it.)
Kasumi Eternity will be much stiffer and much more elastic than Acoustic Carbon Inner. I expect that Ep will be higher than 1.8, and Vp will be higher than 1.2.
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Thanks for all your hard work! Since you’ve been posting Yasaka equipment recently, one blade I’d like to see analyzed is the Yasaka Extra Offensive Power 7.
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Hmmmm …… I don’t have the sample of Yasaka Extra Offensive 7 Power. But, I will put it in my check list. It will be first considered when I get next Yasaka samples. (But, I don’t know when.) 🙂
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Do you have the Andro TP_Ligna CI datas?
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Hmmmmmm …….. I don’t have the sample of that blade. And, it will be difficult for me to get TP_Ligna series.
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Hi, thanks for that all in one datasheet.
Donic Waldner Senso Carbon 84.1 1.34 1.25 0.93 1.11 1.21 1.09
Nittaku Acoustic Carbon Inner 82.9 1.36 1.22 0.90 1.08 1.21 1.12
Both seems on the paper very similar , do you confirm ?
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Although they look similar, there is significant difference between those two.
The artificial material of Waldner Senso Carbon is Carbon Fleece which is tissue-shaped carbon fiber. But, the artificial material of Acoustic Carbon Inner is woven carbon fiber.
Therefore it seems likely that the similarity between the two blades is merely a result of coincidence. Or, it could be one of the evidences that the role of the artificial material is greatly reduced in inner fiber constructions.
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Xiom DIVA (avg. 85g) :Ep = 1.48, Ec = 1.39 (Ec/Ep = 0.94),Vp = 1.15, Vl = 1.21 (Vl/Vp = 1.05)Thickness 5.7 mm
Butterfly Korbel SK7 (avg.87.1g):Ep=1.55, Ec= 1.46 (Ec/Ep=0.94)Vp = 1.17, Vl=1.20 (Vl/Vp=1.03)Thickness 6.8 mm
On paper they look very similar. But in real world testing Korbel SK7 has much more power and feels much more harder and stiffer. But I must to mention that both setups have different rubbers and unknown weights of blades itself.
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I have many pcs. of Korbel SK7, and the thickness of Korbel SK7 isn’t much different from much heavier ‘SK7’. Interestingly, ‘Korbel SK7’ I have are much softer and much less elastic than original ‘SK7’ whose construction looks almost identical. Probably that is because of the difference in weight range.
But, the blade can produce more power although there isn’t noticeable differences in elasticity if that blade is thicker than the other one under comparison. That is concerned with Ec.
BTW, both of the Ep and the Ec of ‘Korbel SK7’ are noticeably higher than those of ‘Diva’. Difference between 1.48 and 1.55 isn’t ignorable. It is sufficiently meaningful difference, and ‘Korbel SK7’ is noticeably more elastic than ‘Diva’.
The only one common feature between ‘Korbel SK7’ and ‘Diva’ is the feeling of hugging ball because the Ec/Eps of those two are identical to each other.
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Hi, is it InnerForce ZLF a new one(brown handle) or old one(blue handle), like Liu Shiwen? I was impressed by the weight and EP Indices. Thank you
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Thank you for comment!
It is old one whose name doesn’t include ‘Layer’.
New ‘InnerForce Layer ZLF’ is a different blade from old ‘InnerForce ZLF’, so it should be measured separately. I couldn’t have get the sample of new ‘Inner Force Layer ZLF’ yet.
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Thank you!
I was surprised by Ep=1.73 and Vl/VP=0.94 indices. I had Liu Shiwen ZLF (2013-2014) 89gr. it was quite thin(5.4-5.5mm) and had low frequency, around 1100 hz. And i suppose that 1100hz it is around Ep=1.3. May be my copy was too old and dried. Actualy, i think, it is impossible to find modern analog for old Innerforce ZLF/Liu Shiwen. May be someone can give me advice?
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As i know about Butterfly inner ZLF:
I didnt like Innerforce layer ALC S. thats why i dont want to try modern Innerforce layer ZLF and 5.3mm its to thin. i suppose Primorac Off-(japan) must be better for me if i need OFF- blade.
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The center layer of Fukuhara Pro ZLF is Ayous. It is based on old InnerForce ZLF. (The second layer is Ayous if my memory is correct. If it is Limba, the Vl of InnerForce ZLF will be much higher.) And, the second layer of InnerForce Layer ZLF is Spruce.
By the way, I think that IF Layer ZLF will be much different from IF Layer ALC.S. The feeling of ZLF is totally different from ALC. So, I don’t recommend predicting the character of IF Layer ZLF from the experience of IF Layer ALC.S.
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1100 Hz is probably the 4th natural frequendy. And, it isn’t directly concerned with Ep. (Although it affects a portion of Ep.) The most important frequency that affects Ep is the first frequency which is related with bending distortion.
So, you’d better not predict Ep from that frequency. That 4th frequency can be higher or lower.
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Sorry, I want specify: Is it performance indices in this table for old InnerForce ZLF(before 2015) or new one(from 2017)?
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It is old one because there isn’t ‘Layer’ in its name. ‘InnerForce ZLF’ and ‘InnerForce Layer ZLF’ are totally different from each other. I couldn’t have got the sample of ‘Layer’ version yet.
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Hello,
Is it planned to review the Felix Lebrun Krypto Carbon ?
Thanks
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*Hyper carbon I meant
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Originally there was the plan. There had been schedule of receiving the blades directly from Tibhar during 2024 WTTC. But, it was cancelled due to my another schedule. But, I’m considering to contact again in near future.
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I would be very interested in the differentes between DHS inner blades: Long 5 (already existent), King Q and sun ying sha. Do you have the Chance to measure them?
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I couldn’t have got the chance yet. The DHS distributor doesn’t provide the sample of new blades, and I don’t have budget to buy those two.
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Hi, Thanks for your great work. Do you have any plans for measuring the indices of Donic Xtreme? I’ve seen a few great reviews about this blade, so it would be good to see its indices and maybe even a full review.
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Thank you for comment. I’m considering to add some Donic blades, but Xtreme isn’t on the list of Donic blade I can buy. I will ask distributor but if they don’t deal with it, I have to buy it from abroad. (And, there is limit of budget.)
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Greetings from Brazil! Any chance to review the donic waldner 89 champion inner zlc? I am a big fan of your work, as a researcher myself I feel it is a huge work to have reproducible metrics regarding table tennis equipment. Anda as a suggestion, what do you think about measuring the ressonance frequency of a blade? Maybe it is a nice metric to compare regarding base speed?
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Thank you for comment. Walnder 89 Champion is on my list. But, I’m not sure whether I can get it in short time or not. (I’ll once ask Donic distributor.)
For the calculation of the parameters, I measure the natural frequencies of blade. But, the frequency itself can’t explain the base speed. And, if you just measure one frequency among many natural frequencies, that data just show us the information about ‘sound’. So I have to gather more information of blade including frequencies and then calculate.
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Appreciate the feedback! Hopefully u will manage to get a sample and review it, would be awesome! Following the topic, what blade would u recommend for a player who likes to loop heavy on the forehand, but is more prone to blocking with its backhand? I was thinking a fzd zlc, with bluegrip c2 both sides. Would love to hear your opinion! Tks again!
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In fact, there isn’t a right solution, but I think that you will be able to consider classic 7-ply wood blades such as Butterfly SK7 Classic or Tibhar MK 7. Those will provided higher balance for that kind of playing sytle when compared with FZD ZLC.
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Thank you very much for all informative and fruitful tests that I appreciate very much. I look forward to a test on the Harimoto Super ALC!
Best Karl
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Thank you for comment. That blade is on my buying list.
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