[Update Notice (11th October 2023)]
The performance indeces of ‘Harimoto Tomokazu InnerForce ALC’ has been updated by new measurement. Original data was the result of the pcs. of average weight 94g, while the avg. weight on Butterfly home page is just 86g. For that reason the data had once been updated by the measurement of lighter pcs. whose weight is under 90g. However, it is revealed that the pcs. under 90g are too light and therefore can’t represent the right characteristics of ‘Harimoto Tomokazu InnerForce ALC’. For thar reason the data has been measured once again by some pcs. over 90g, and the Performance Indices has been updated once more on 11th October 2023.)
Because the 2023 version of ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’ is much different from the 2018 version shown in this article, this article should be totally revised. Please note that 2023 version of ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’ is not much different from ‘Harimoto ALC’. We can consider that ‘Harimoto ALC’ is just the ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’ with bigger head.
1. ‘Harimoto Tomokazu InnerForce ALC’ and ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’
Butterfly ‘Harimoto Tomokazu InnerForce ALC’ is famous as the blade of Harimoto Tomokazu who is the MS winner of 2018 ITTF World Tour Grand Final. (Because its name is too long, it will be called as ‘Harimoto ALC’ in this article.)
‘Harimoto ALC’ (= ‘Harimoto Tomokazu InnerForce ALC’) is known as the ‘InnerForce ALC’ with bigger head and special graphic design for Harimoto Tomokazu. Butterfly home page is explaining that there isn’t any difference between ‘Harimoto ALC’ and ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’. Equal thickness (6.0mm), equal weight (90g) and equal elasticity (10.7 in Butterfly measure). However, many players who have tried both of those two are saying that ‘Harimoto ALC’ is heavier and faster than ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’.
We can hardly distinguish two blades from above picture because those two look almost identical. However, the measured thicknesses are not identical. The average thickness of ‘Harimoto ALC’ is 5.92mm. But, the average thickness of ‘InnerForce layer ALC’ is 5.80mm. And, the average weight of measured pieces of ‘Harimoto ALC’ is 91.6g (updated on 11th Octobrer 2023).
[Update in 11th October 2023] At the time this article was written, the thickness of ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’ was measured as 5.7~5.8mm. However, the new thickness of ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’ measured in 2023 is around 5.9mm which is not much different from the thickness of ‘Harimoto ALC’. Even the apprearance of the blade construction of ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’ doesn’t look different from that of ‘Harimoto ALC’. For that reason, we will be able to consider ‘Harimoto ALC’ just as the ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’ with bigger head.
Therefore we can easily expect that there will be more than the difference of thickness. In general, if the constructions of two blades are very similar to each other, thicker and heavier one is faster (= more elastic). Because ‘Harimoto ALC’ is thicker and heavier, it will be faster than ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’. That prediction coincides with the experience of players. And, ‘Performance Indices’ will provide us further backup of that prediction.
As always, let’s examine the characteristics of ‘Harimoto ALC’ by ‘Performance Indices’ and compare it with ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’ and some other models.
2. Blades to be compared
Following blades will be compared in this article.
- Butterfly Harimoto Tomokazu InnerForce ALC (Butterfly Harimoto ALC)
- Butterfly InnerForce Layer ALC (measured in 2018, thinner than 2023 version)
- Butterfly InnerForce Layer ZLC
- Butterfly Timo Boll ALC (Outer fiber, ALC)
- Tibhar Cedric Nuytinck (Outer fiber, ZLC)
- Butterfly Korbel (5-ply wood)
- Stiga Allround Classic (Reference)
‘Harimoto ALC’ and ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’ are very similar to each other in blade construction. Both of those are inner ALC blades with Limba top layer. The main issue of this article is the comparison between those two blades.
‘InnerForce Layer ZLC’ is an inner ZLC blade with Limba top layer. It is very similar to ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’. But, the difference of fiber makes difference characteristics.
‘Timo Boll ALC’ is not an inner fiber blade. It is the representative of the blades with ‘outer fiber’ construction. Its fiber is same as that for ‘Harimoto ALC’ and ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’. However, its fiber is placed directly under top layer. We can call that kind of construction as ‘outer fiber’ construction. In this comparison, ‘Timo Boll ALC’ is the only one blade whose top layer isn’t Limba. The top layer of ‘Timo Boll ALC’ is Koto.
‘Cedric Nuytinck’ is another blade with ‘outer fiber’construction. But, differently from ‘Timo Boll ALC’, its fiber is ZLC.
‘Korbel’ is the representative 5-ply wood offensive blade with Limba top layer. .
Finally, ‘Allround Classic’ is the representative of traditional all-round blades. And, it is the reference blade of Performance Indices in TTGear Lab. All indices for ‘Allround Classic’ is 1.0.
Comparison will be done by performance indices. Concerning the detail of four performance indices, please refer to following articles in ‘Background’ section :
- Performance indices : the way to evaluate blade by measurement
- The example of comparison by performance indices
3. Comparison by Performance Indices
Fig.06 Comprison of Elasticity Indices
Fig.06 shows the comparison graph of Elasticity Indices
Ep (Primary Elasticity Index) is directly concerned with the rebound speed of blade. Ec (Central Elasticity Index) is concerned with additional ‘kick’ when player hits ball very hard.
From the graph, we can notice that the elasticity of ‘Harimoto ALC’ is apparently higher than that of ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’ as expected from the difference of thickness. Ep and Ec of ‘Harimoto ALC’ (avg. weight 91.6g) are 1.93 and 1.72 respectively. (Updated on 11th October 2023) On the contrary, Ep and Ec of ‘InnerForce Layer ALC'(measured in 2018) are 1.62 and 1.45 respectively. It means that ‘Harimoto ALC’ is noticeably faster than ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’.
The overall elasticity level of ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’ is a bit higher than that of ‘Korbel’. And, that of ‘Harimoto ALC’ is a blade is even higher, and is close to that of ‘InnerForce Layer ZLC’. (The elasticity level of heavier ‘Harimoto ALC’ is higher than that of ‘InnerForce Layer ZLC’.) Two ‘outer fiber’ blades – ‘Timo Boll ALC’ (Ep = 2.14, Ec = 1.77) and ‘Cedric Nuytinck’ (Ep = 2.02, Ec = 1.89) are of course faster than ‘Harimoto ALC’. (However, heavier ‘Harimoto ALC’ of avg. weight 94g is as fast as those two.)
Examining Ec/Ep is an easier way to understand the tendency of elasticity of blades. Fig.07 shows the relationship between Ec/Ep and Ep.
Fig.07 Ec/Ep vs. Ep
Ec/Ep expresses the ‘tendency’ of the elasticity of blade. By examining Ec/Ep and Ep at the same time, we can easily understand the behavior of blades.
On the graph, all the blades in this comparison except for reference blade are in the range of Ec/Ep < 1.0, i.e. ‘Hold’ range. ‘Harimoto ALC’ is in ‘Deep Hold’ range. ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’ is also in ‘Deep Hold’ range. But, the position of ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’ can be also be regarded as the the border between ‘Mild Hold’ range and ‘Deep Hold’ range. Anyway, the difference between Ec/Ep of ‘Harimoto ALC’ and that of ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’ is not significant. But, there is noticeable difference between Ep of ‘Harimoto ALC’ and that of ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’. Therefore we can conclude that ‘Harimoto ALC’ is more elastic variation of ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’.
Then successively, let’s compare Vibration Indices. Fig. 08 shows the comparison graph of Vibration Indices.
Fig.08 Comparison by Vibration Indices
Vibration Indices are concerned with feeling. Vp indicates primary feeling which is transferred to player’s palm. And, Vl is the feeling at the wing of a blade. It is felt by player’s index finger or middle finger.
The Vp of ‘Harimoto ALC’ is 1.22. It is higher than the Vp of ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’ (= 1.15). That is what we can expect from thicker construction of ‘Harimoto ALC’. The players who are sensitive to the primary feeling that is transferred through handle will feel that ‘Harimoto ALC’ is harder than ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’.
On the contrary, the Vl of ‘Harimoto ALC’ (= 1.21) is lower than that of ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’ (= 1.23) although the difference is not big. (The difference is in the range of deviation by piece.) Because there isn’t much difference between the Lateral Vibration Indices of those two blades, the players who are especially sensitive to the feeling that is transferred through the side edges of blade may feel that ‘Harimoto ALC’ is not much different from ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’.
Also, Vibration Indices of ‘Harimoto ALC’ (Vp = 1.22, Vl = 1.21) are close to those of ‘InnerForce Layer ZLC’ (Vp = 1.24, Vl = 1.21). Some players those are not that sensitive may feel that ‘Harimoto ALC’ is not much different from ‘InnerForce Layer ZLC’.
Examining Vl/Vp is an easier way for the comparison of the tendency of feeling.
Fig.09 shows the relationship between Vl/Vp and Vp for easier comparison.
Fig.09 Vl/Vp vs. Vp
On the graph of Vl/Vp vs. Vp, the of ‘Harimoto ALC’ is placed near the line Vl/Vp = 1.0, although it is a bit lower than 1.0. (The data before update is under 1.0. But, it was also close to 1.0.) Therefore we can think that the feeling of ‘Harimoto ALC’ is quite uniform. On the contrary the Vl/Vp of ‘InnerForce Layer ALC'(thin version measured in 2018) is noticealy higher than 1.0, although still it is placed in ‘near uniform’ range (0.9 < Vl/Vp < 1.1). So players will feel that ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’ is noticeably sharper than ‘Harimoto ALC’, although it is not as sharp as ‘Korbel’ or ‘Timo Boll ALC’.
On the contrary, ‘InnerForce Layer ZLC’ is placed under the line Vl/Vp = 1.0. But, its value is also very close to 1.0. And, ‘Cedric Nuytinck’ is also very close to the uniform line.
‘Korbel’ and ‘Timo Boll ALC’ are placed at ‘Relatively sharper at finger’ range. And, those two can’t be regarded as ‘near uniform’ ones. In case a player wants to replace Korbel with faster one while keeping feeling, ‘Timo Boll ALC’ may be better solution than ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’.
4. Summary
The result of comparison can be summarized as follows :
- ‘Harimoto ALC’ (= ‘Harimoto Tomokazu InnerForce ALC’) is noticeably faster (= more elastic) than ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’ (Note : This one is 2018 version. 2023 version is not much different from ‘Harimoto ALC’.). ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’ is just a bit faster than ‘Korbel’. However, ‘Harimoto ALC’ is as fast as ‘InnerForce Layer ZLC’. Both of those hold ball very well when player hits the ball very strongly.
- ‘Harimoto ALC’ is harder than ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’.(Note : This one is 2018 version. 2023 version is not much different from ‘Harimoto ALC’.) However, the feeling of ‘Harimoto ALC’ that is felt at the fingertip of index finger is not meaningfully different from that feeling of ‘InnerForce ALC’. Some players will easily distinguish one from the other. However, the other players will feel that those two blades are similar to each other.
‘Harimoto ALC’ is based on ‘InnerForce Layer ALC'(Note : This one is 2018 version. 2023 version is not much different from ‘Harimoto ALC’.). However, as we can expect from thicker construction and heavier weight, ‘Harimoto ALC’ is different from ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’. Some aspects (The Vl/Vp which is close to 1.0) of ‘Harimoto ALC’ remind us of some classic 7-ply wood blades such as ‘Clipper’ series, while ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’ is relatively closer to ‘Korbel’ which is the representative of classic offensive 5-ply wood blade. The difference between ‘Harimoto ALC’ and ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’ is similar to the difference between ‘Clipper Wood’ and ‘Korbel’. This result may be good guideline when you choose between ‘Harimoto ALC’ and ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’. If you want to select a blade which isn’t too much slower than ‘Timo Boll ALC’ but whose feeling is much more natural than ‘Timo Boll ALC’, ‘Harimoto ALC’ will be a good solution. But, if you like the overall characteristics of ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’ including moderate elasticity, please don’t select ‘Harimoto ALC’ just because of its special design. ‘Harimoto ALC’ can be the replacement of ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’ only when the player needs higher speed.
Fantastic review and helpful review! Another good comparison is Donic Ovtcharov no.1 senso. Very similar blade and composition to Innerforce ALC and Harimoto ALC. I just purchased Joola Aruna blade, have you any experience using this and how do you think it’s indices compare?
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Thank you for comment. But, I don’t have Ovtcharov No.1 now. I’m considering to buy one for testing.
Ovtcharov No.1 is made by DHS. And, it is based on Hurricane Long 5 but the fiber replaced by different one.
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I like your lab testing a lot, since it gives an objective view on products which usually just described by personal feel. Since there is an ongoing discussion since years without any proof about the differences between the butterfly ALC blade variants, it would be great to get a lab test about it.
Would it be possible to have your testing with ZJK, TB, LGY, Viscaria? Since weight usually is a great deal in terms of behaviour of a blade, it would for sure be nice to have a test with these blades with similar weight (if possible).
Thanks in advance and hoping for this test to be done
Patrick
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Thank you for comment.
In fact, those blades are almost similar if the weight is identical. Among four values, Ep and Ec are affected by weight difference. The values of lighter blade is smaller.
The ratio – Ec/Ep isn’t significantly affected by weight. And, Vp and Vl are affected a bit. But, not significant.
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Thanks, that would be great. Perhaps check out the TableTennisDaily review both the No.1 and No.1 Senso version. It’s definitely a Donic blade as you’ll see in the video.
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Thank you for comment. Donic blades are made by various factories. And, Ovcharov No.1 and Senso version are made by DHS factory. If you directly ask Donic, Donic will tell you that it is made by DHS.
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Si può fare un confronto tra tutti i telai innerforce. Vecchio innerforce zlc nuovo innerforce layer zlc , dhs 301 ect
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Sarebbe interessante anche un confronto tra i vari telai innerforce zlc
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Hi,
I have a few queries .
1)Please compare the Butterfly Harimoto ALC, ZLC and SZLC in terms of thier playng
properties. Butterfly charges twice as much for those other blades does it reflect in their
performance?
2)What’s the weight of the specific Butterfly Harimoto ALC blade you tested?
Thanks in Advance!! Great review by the way.
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1) I don’t have Harimoto ZLC and SZLC yet. However, I think that those blades are apparently overpriced, although those are very good blades.
2) It is about 94 gram.
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Hi, thanks for nice reviews. Any chance of comparison of (a discontinued blade) Powerkev Carbon and Innerforce Layer ALC?
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I’m really sorry that I couldn’t write reply because I couldn’t have this website for long time due to my health condition (= disease other than Covid 19). I started to manage website again, and I will also reply to comments from now on.
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The Donic Ovtcharov No1 Senso (now Original Senso) feels to me compared to the IF Layer ALC a little harder and faster.
Its a bit more head-heavy and feels more as the vibrations manifest in the head (->”sharper at finger”?) and not the handle. (Could be because of weight distribution too because of the senso-technology).
The handle (konkav) of the No1 is slimmer than the IF Layer ALC, maybe even too slim for some bigger hands.
(I tested contemporaneous with nearly identical (differantiating only a little in age/playtime) rubbers on booth blades (Rozena and FastarcG1; German TTR around 1400 – so, no – i’m no pro at all).
ps: good to see you back – your site is really remarkable and and huge help to the tt-community world wide!
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Thank you very much for your compliments on this website. For long time I couldn’t managed this website properly due to my personal condition (= disease other than Covid19). But, I will try to manage this website consistently from 2023.
And, also than you for the information. Unfortunately I couldn’t get the sample of Donic Ovtcharov No1 Senso yet. But, it seems that there will be the chance to get it. Then I will test it and measure its feeling and elasticity to back up your comments. 🙂
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Hello,
Thanks a lot for the very nice and professional work !
Is it possible for you to compare the innerforce layer ALC to the Timo Boll ZLF please ?
Also other blades that I’m interested in having a comparison: Boll forte 3 , butterfly carbo x5 22 (the new version), and Tibhar dynamic J7. If you might have some of them to test, it would be very nice ! 🙂
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NB: I meant the butterfly Balsa carbo x5 (22)
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The data of Innerforce Layer ALC and Timo Boll ZLF are as follows:
InnerForce Layer ALC
Ep = 1.62, Ec = 1.45 (Ec/Ep = 0.89)
Vp = 1.15, Vl = 1.26 (Vl/Vp = 1.10)
Timo Boll ZLF
Ep = 1.63, Ec = 1.47 (Ec/Ep = 0.90)
Vp = 1.19, Vl = 1.34 (Vl/Vp = 1.13)
Those two blades are very close to each other, and the same is true when using them in practice at court. But, there is difference in feeling. I have actually tested both of those at court. As we can expect from the construction, the feeling of InnerForce Layer ALC is more natural. On the contrary, the feeling of Timo Boll ZLF is somewhat artificial. (But, I think that the feeling of Timo Boll ZLF isn’t bad in my opinion. Although the feeling isn’t natural, the information of impact is transferred very clearly and very precisely. For me the feeling of Timo Boll ZLF is fantastic although I’m not sure if other players would agree.)
Regarding other blades, I don’t have Boll Forte 3 and Blasa Carbo X5. But, I’m considering to test Dynamic J7.
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Thanks a lot for the detailed answer !
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I hope that the explation is helpful for you. Probably I will be able to get the sample of Dynamic J7 in this September of October.
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Hi, I noticed that there are two different data of Harimoto alc, the one in this blog(Ep1.93) and the one in HL5X blog (EP1.87), which one is the right data or they are two blades? Thanks!
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The values have changed by additional measurement. Current avg. value of Ep of Harimoto ALC is 1.90.
I updated the value on the article of HL5X. But, it seems that there is mistake in typing when I input the data. I will check and correct it.
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I really like it that you keep these articles up to date. Thumbs up!
The changes made by BTY on the IF ALC, makes the blade actually more attractive. I own the Harimoto ALC but I’m still not convinced. The larger head size makes it a bit too head heavy and of course more heavy in general. The increased thickness of the IF ALC with a regular size head shape, might be worth trying it 🙂
Thanks again for your work!
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Thank you for comment. I also think that most of players will not need the enlarged head of ‘Harimoto Tomokazu InnerForce ALC’. It makes the blade itself head heavy, and the head becomes even heavier when the rubbers are attached. For most of us, current ‘InnerForce Layer ALC’ will be more than sufficient. 🙂
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Thank you very much for the report, and the update for different weight.
I think it might be a good idea to write down the weight/thickness for the blade used in the report. Then when you test another blade in the same model but with different weight/thickness, you could simply write down the new performance indices without deleting the old one. In that case people will see how weight/thickness impacts performance.
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Thank you for comment. It is very good opinion. By the way, the thickness/weight data of old version is remaining in this article. 🙂
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Thanks.
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Great job. It’s very insightful to read your reports.
have you done any analysis of innerforce layer ZLF?
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I have the data of old InnerForce ZLF. But, because InnerForce Layer ZLF is totally different blade from InnerForce ZLF, I have to newly measure it. I’m considering to get it during next month. Then you will be able to see the result soon.
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It is very nice methodology to compare different blades in my opinion.
Is it possible to deduce from your measurements how easy it is to generate spin with blade with the same rubber?
My experience for example with two different blades form Butterfly: It is much easier to generate spin with Viscaria then with Korbel by using of Tenergy05 rubber.
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In fact, there isn’t any right answer for the relationship between the characteristics of blade and the ease of generating spin. It differs by player.
And, sometimes the blades with higher elasticity, harder feeling and less ability of hugging ball are easier to generate spin than slower & softer blades those hug ball very deeply. But, not all players feel that those blades generate spin more easily.
But, anyway the combination of Viscaria and Tenergy 05 is a very good combination for generating spin. Tenergy 05 is a rubber whose characteristics is concentrating on spin performance and ease of use. And, that fits very well for Viscaria which is one of highly elastic blades and hugs ball just moderately.
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